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PostPosted: Sat 18 Feb - 15:08 (2012)    Post subject: Naathaniel Reply with quote

I’m thinking about Naathaniel. I’ll probably do 1 or 2 TR, and I wouldlike to have your opinion.
I have 2 choices :
First : do 1 TR in wizard for spell penetration and 1 TR in sorcerer (water savant). (I don’t know if I’ll have courage and time to do 2 TR…)
Second : only 1 TR in sorcerer (water savant) with nothing to spell penetration and max damage spells (cold and acid).

Here are the both:

2 TR : 1 in wizard, 1 in sorcerer :

Stats :

STR : 8+2(tome)+6(item)+3(Greater Might of the Abishai) = 19
DEX : 14+2(tome)+6(item) = 22
CON : 14+2(tome)+7(item)+3(Greater Might of the Abishai) = 26
INT : 12+2(tome)+6(item) = 20
WIS : 8+2(tome)+6(item) = 16
CHA : 20+2(tome)+5(lvl ability)+3(enhancement)+7(item)+1(exceptional craft) = 38

Hit points : 304+40(superior false life)+20(toughness)+45(shroud) = 409
Spell points : 2507+400(archmage item)+300(shroud) = 3207

Fortitude save : 21 (with +2 luck and +5 save item)
Reflex save : 19 (with +2 luck and +5 save item)
Will save : 22 (with +2 luck and +5 save item)

Feats :

Toughness
Empower spell
Maximize spell
Extend spell
Heighten spell
Spell Penetration
Past Life : Arcane Prodigy or spell focus conjuration or spell focus evocation


Enhancements:

Sorcerer Bloodline of Power (capstone)
Sorcerer Improved Maximize II
Racial Toughness II
Sorcerer Charisma III
Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded IV
Sorcerer Water Savant III
Sorcerer Spell Penetration II
Frost Manipulation VII
Glacial Spellcasting VI
Deadly Ice VI
Acid Manipulation VII
Corrosive Spellcasting V
Deadly Acid II


Spell penetration : 20+2(item)+3(enhancement)+2(feat)+2(Past life) = 29

The DC of spells would be 33. 36 for conjuration spells and 39 for evocation spells. Spell focus feat or spell focus craft on epic items are not included.



1 TR in sorcerer :

Stats :

STR : 8+2(tome)+6(item)+3(Greater Might of the Abishai) = 19
DEX : 12+2(tome)+6(item) = 20
CON : 14+2(tome)+7(item)+3(Greater Might of the Abishai) = 26
INT : 12+2(tome)+6(item) = 20
WIS : 8+2(tome)+6(item) = 16
CHA : 20+2(tome)+5(lvl ability)+3(enhancement)+7(item)+1(exceptional craft) = 38

Hit points : 324+40(superior false life)+20(toughness)+45(shroud) = 429
Spell points : 2507+400(archmage item)+300(shroud) = 3207

Fortitude save : 21 (with +2 luck and +5 save item)
Reflex save : 18 (with +2 luck and +5 save item)
Will save : 22 (with +2 luck and +5 save item)

Feats :

Toughness *2
Empower spell
Maximize spell
Extend spell
Heighten spell
Past Life : Arcane Prodigy or spell focus conjuration or spell focus evocation


Enhancements:

Sorcerer Bloodline of Power (capstone)
Sorcerer Improved Maximize II
Racial Toughness II
Sorcerer Charisma III
Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded IV
Sorcerer Water Savant III
Frost Manipulation VII
Glacial Spellcasting VI
Deadly Ice VI
Acid Manipulation VII
Corrosive Spellcasting VI
Deadly Acid VI


Spell penetration : 20+2(item) = 22

The DC of spells would be 33. 36 for conjuration spells and 39 for evocation spells. And I don’t included spell focus feat or spell focus craft on epic items.




Items :

Armor : Epic Frozen Tunic (Armor Bonus +8, Superior Glaciation IX, Superior Ice Lore, Freezing Ice, Fire Shield (Cold), Enhanced Ki +1, Epic Glaciation VI)

Googles : Shroud mana

Helmet : Epic Helm of Frost (Greater Might of the Abishai, Charisma +7, Polar Ray 3 (3/day), Greater Cold Resistance)

Necklace : Shroud HP ???

Trinket : Epic Dusk Heart (Superior False Life, Dusk, Mass Death Ward (CL:7, 1/1 rest))

Cloak : Epic Envenomed Cloak (Greater Might of the Abishai, Constitution +7, Resistance Save +5, Greater Poison Guard)

Belt : Telvi’s sash (Superior Freeze VIII (CL:1, 3/3), Wizardry VI) ???

Ring 1 : Telvi’s Touch (Charisma +6, Exceptional Wisdom +1) ???

Ring 2 : Epic ring of Elemental Essence (Archmagi, Epic Combustion VI, Epic Glaciation VI, Epic Magnetism VI, Epic Corrosion VI, Inherent Fire Resistance - 5, Inherent Cold Resistance - 5, Inherent Electricity Resistance - 5, Inherent Acid Resistance – 5)

Gloves : Epic Charged Gauntlets (Greater Might of the Abishai, Strength +6, Greater Shocking Blow, Greater Lightning Resistance)

Boots : Epic Boots of Corrosion (Greater Might of the Abishai, Superior Corrosion VI, Superior Nullification VI, Greater Acid Resistance, Disintegration Guard)

Bracers : Epic Scorched Bracers (Greater Might of the Abishai, Armor Bonus +8, Fire Storm, Greater Fire Resistance)

Weapon 1 : Epic Green Blade (Greater Arcane Lore, Lesser Potency IX, Spell Penetration IX, Force Burst)

Weapon 2 : Epic Flameward (Fire absorption 20%, Greater Evocation focus, UMD +5 competence, Charisma +7, Excep Cha +1, Greater Fire resistance) ???


Some question about this stuff :
-The Tevi set gives : “Cold Spells gain +5% chance to Critical Hit, Critical Damage Multiplier increased by 0.50. If Water Savant III: Max Caster Level on all water savant spells increased by two”
I already have the best to critic with cold spells with Tunic witch gives Superior Ice Lore (+12%, +0.50x). And it takes 2 slots only for +2 lvl to cold spells…
Moreover, I don’t have these items and the ring is difficult to loot…

I maybe replace them with a shroud HP belt and the epic ring of the buccaneer.
If I do that I’ll put the epic shaman’s necklace for Greater Evocation Focus and Efficient Metamagic - Maximize II. And probably the Epic Ornamented Dagger for the second weapon.

What do you think about that? I need some advices for a noob Wink


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PostPosted: Sat 18 Feb - 17:31 (2012)    Post subject: Naathaniel Reply with quote

about the No2 build toughness feat gives 22 hp n you didnt add 20 hp from toughenss craft on green slot.
take 1 toughness feat not 2 n take gr evocation focus or gr conjuration focus.
past life sorcerer feat arcane prodigy not good for 20 level its good for low levev but nothing special ( good damage but has save for half n casting time 203 secs so many times i do mobs move n spell missed) so dont take it n take evoc or conju focus.
tod set for me is MUST , i tested on aetu with n without set the difference is big n dont forget that the ring will give you +2 ex cha too if you craft so 1 more dc . if we manage to be more than 4-5 online we can shortman tod with friends , sooner or later you will find ring.
429 hp are good 509 with ship buff rage n yugo pot.
i would suggest 2nd tod ring or brawns spirit epic ttrinket for +2 ex con because its 20 more hp n +1 on the freezing ice DC of water savant
if i think anything else i will post .

ps. spell resistance has 2 types of mobs devils n drows , drows have insane SR , devils have 26-32 depend mob , quest n difficulty , with full abi set your web dc will be good web has no SR n there is prismatic spray that fts or banish or damage mobs without SR n works on epics too so this combo is good for savants so SR its not so important
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PostPosted: Sat 18 Feb - 21:07 (2012)    Post subject: Naathaniel Reply with quote

Thank you very much Summer for your advices!
I already counted toughness feat in Hit points calcul.

So it would be :


Stats :

STR : 8+2(tome)+6(item)+3(Greater Might of the Abishai) = 19
DEX : 12+2(tome)+6(item) = 20
CON : 14+2(tome)+7(item)+3(Greater Might of the Abishai)+2(exceptional constit on Brawn spirit) = 28
INT : 12+2(tome)+6(item)-1(Brawn spirit) = 19
WIS : 8+2(tome)+6(item)-1(Brawn spirit) = 15
CHA : 20+2(tome)+5(lvl ability)+3(enhancement)+7(item)+1(exceptional cha)+2(exceptional cha) = 38

Hit points : 202+120(bonus constit : +7 (item) +2 (exceptional) +3 (Greater might of the abishai)) +30(greater false life) +20(toughness craft) +45(shroud) = 417
Spell points : 2507+400(archmage item)+300(shroud) = 3207

Fortitude save : 22 (with +2 luck and +5 save item)
Reflex save : 18 (with +2 luck and +5 save item)
Will save : 21 (with +2 luck and +5 save item)

Feats :

Toughness
Empower spell
Maximize spell
Extend spell
Heighten spell
spell focus conjuration
spell focus evocation


Enhancements:

Sorcerer Bloodline of Power (capstone)
Sorcerer Improved Maximize II
Racial Toughness II
Sorcerer Charisma III
Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded IV
Sorcerer Water Savant III
Frost Manipulation VII
Glacial Spellcasting VI
Deadly Ice VI
Acid Manipulation VII
Corrosive Spellcasting VI
Deadly Acid VI


Spell penetration : 20+2(item) = 22

The DC of spells would be 33. 37 for conjuration spells and 40 for evocation spells. And I don’t included spell focus feat or spell focus craft on epic items.
DC of 39 on Icy Prison



Items :

Armor : Epic Frozen Tunic (Armor Bonus +8, Superior Glaciation IX, Superior Ice Lore, Freezing Ice, Fire Shield (Cold), Enhanced Ki +1, Epic Glaciation VI)

Googles : Shroud mana

Helmet : Epic Helm of Frost (Greater Might of the Abishai, Charisma +7, Polar Ray 3 (3/day), Greater Cold Resistance)

Necklace : Shroud HP

Trinket : Epic Brawn's Spirits (Rage 5 Charges (Recharged/Day: 5), Intimidate +20, Wisdom -1, Intelligence -1, Exceptional Constitution +2, Incite 10%)

Cloak : Epic Envenomed Cloak (Greater Might of the Abishai, Constitution +7, Resistance Save +5, Greater Poison Guard)

Belt : Telvi’s sash (Superior Freeze VIII (CL:1, 3/3), Wizardry VI)

Ring 1 : Telvi’s Touch (Charisma +6, Exceptional Wisdom +1)

Ring 2 : Epic ring of Elemental Essence (Archmagi, Epic Combustion VI, Epic Glaciation VI, Epic Magnetism VI, Epic Corrosion VI, Inherent Fire Resistance - 5, Inherent Cold Resistance - 5, Inherent Electricity Resistance - 5, Inherent Acid Resistance – 5)

Gloves : Epic Charged Gauntlets (Greater Might of the Abishai, Strength +6, Greater Shocking Blow, Greater Lightning Resistance)

Boots : Epic Boots of Corrosion (Greater Might of the Abishai, Superior Corrosion VI, Superior Nullification VI, Greater Acid Resistance, Disintegration Guard)

Bracers : Epic Scorched Bracers (Greater Might of the Abishai, Armor Bonus +8, Fire Storm, Greater Fire Resistance)

Weapon 1 : Epic Green Blade (Greater Arcane Lore, Lesser Potency IX, Spell Penetration IX, Force Burst)

Weapon 2 : Epic Flameward (Fire absorption 20%, Greater Evocation focus, UMD +5 competence, Charisma +7, Excep Cha +1, Greater Fire resistance)


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